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Bridges4Kids LogoNewsmaker Friday: Roeber Eyes Faster MEAP Scores
Gongwer News Service, May 14, 2004
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Ed Roeber is now through the first full testing cycle in his second stint as director of the Michigan Educational Assessment program, and his work so far has drawn commendation from some of the most strident opponents of the state's testing program. But if the stock market had not performed so poorly the last several years, he might have remained in his private sector post.

The opportunity to move back into the state retirement system was one of several attractions to moving back into his old job, Mr. Roeber told Gongwer News Service during an interview Friday.

But now that he is in the post, he has a plan he hopes over the next three years will significantly improve both the value and the reputation of the MEAP.

The most recent release of test scores was an about face from the debacle of the 2002-03 scoring, but Mr. Roeber said it was still at best a "B-" effort compared to what the test scoring process should be.

"It's still not as easy at it could have been," he said. "There are still improvements that could be made."

He said he is working to get, if not for the coming school year, at least under the next scoring contract, the time to score the tests down from the current nine weeks to no more than four. "I think we could get it down to two or three weeks," he said. "It's a matter of do we want to pay for it."

And he said with his experience in the industry he will be able to find the contractors who will meet those standards - and write contracts they would be willing to sign.

Mr. Roeber came back to the MEAP about the same time it came back to the Department of Education after much cajoling from Superintendent of Public Instruction Tom Watkins. "From May to about September, he would periodically call me to come back," Mr. Roeber said.

But at that point he periodically replied in the negative because of the pay cut he would take coming from a private non-profit testing firm.

The answer changed when, at a meeting to discuss his officially filing for retirement benefits from his previous time in the department, Mr. Watkins was able to meet his salary demands. And he said returning to the state retirement system was attractive. "I could rejoin the Michigan retirement system and afford to retire without having to worry about 401(k)s," he said.

He came to Mr. Watkins' attention after serving on a task force on implementing Education! YES, an effort he said should have warned him of the work ahead in MEAP. "When the State Board of Education commissioned us, we all thought we'd meet two to three times," he said. "After 13 meetings, we kind of ran out of steam."

And he said the work now in the MEAP office is more difficult than he had remembered from his earlier tenure - not that he is unable to do it. "I realize the difference in stamina I had as a 35-year-old versus now as a 60-year-old," he said. "With the fall testing and with the discussions of what test to use for high school, there's a lot of extra things I really didn't think would be part of the job."

Mr. Roeber has been with the program almost since its inception. When the test began in the 1969-70 school year, he was working with the National Assessment of Educational Progress as a graduate student.

He came to Michigan as the coordinator of test development in 1974 and moved up to supervise the program in 1976, a post he held until 1991.

But his prior time as MEAP supervisor is not the only asset he brings to the post. He has also worked the other side of the fence with test development companies, including having written the bid (which came in second) for Measured Progress to score the MEAP.

That experience, and some research he has done since returning to the department, has shown him there are a number or opportunities that were not explored when the Department of Treasury bid out the current scoring contract.

The primary issue, he said, is the time it takes to scan the answer sheets. The current contractor needs five weeks to complete the scanning. "There are contractors on the market than can do it in half a day," he said. "The faster you can get the boxes open and scanned, the faster you can get the scorer scoring."

Mr. Roeber indicated it was primarily inexperience among MEAP leadership at the time that led to not only the lengthy time for scoring the tests but to the late test scores for the 2002-03 school year. "The staff tried to be too innovative without having a backup," he said. When the software designed to give unique identifiers to each student failed, there was no other way to match students in the database to their district, he said, which led to having to manually review some 55,000 score sheets to try to determine where the students attended.

"We're not going to implement anything unless it's been thoroughly tested and we'll still have a backup," he said.

But he said some changes at the school level could also speed up the time in releasing the scores. In 2002-03, the schools did not correct demographic information on students until after the tests had been scored, part of what led to the number of appeals on adequate yearly progress under the federal No Child Left Behind Act. For the most recent tests, those corrections were done as the scores were submitted, but Mr. Roeber said he would like to see schools make those corrections before the tests are even taken.

He is also trying to cut into the time that MEAP is cutting into the school year. "Some of my goals are to try to simplify the test process to make the test shorter," he said.

For instance, the testing process for the writing test currently allows students 45 minutes to outline their paper before they begin writing it. "I don't think that's necessary," he said.

He said in general the tests need to be timed. "I think we can set time limits that are generous but are time limits nonetheless."

He noted one high school student taking the test last week spent seven hours on the mathematics portion, a time he said was excessive.

"English teachers tell students the more you write the better grade you get," he said. "We certainly don't count the number of pages when we're looking at clarity of expression." He said, in fact, some of the longer papers are marked down because the added material detracts from the original idea.

The changes now are necessary to get the state ready for the 2005-06 school year when the MEAP program will see its more drastic changes, Mr. Roeber said. That is the year the state will first implement grade-level tests for all subjects and could potentially be the first year of an entirely new test at the high school level.

Though the timely release of the scores this year has ended one public concern over the high school test, he said it has not quelled discussion of changing to the ACT or some other college entrance examination to replace the current test.

He noted that it was only the elementary and middle school tests that were affected by the delays in 2002-03. The high school tests, he said, were relatively timely.

But, no matter the improvements or changes, there will always be some controversy surrounding the MEAP, Mr. Roeber said. While the education community in general was pleased at the timeliness of the score release, he said some were raising a flap that the number of answers to score in the proficient range had been reduced on some of the tests.

While critics said the move was to make the test scores look better in light of sanctions under No Child Left Behind, Mr. Roeber said the change was merely a statistical change to be sure results on the test this year could be compared to results last year. "If the questions are more difficult and you want to keep the scale the same, you've got to adjust the scores," he said. "That's why you don't report by the raw number or questions passed."

The criticisms began the first year of the tests when the department said it would not release scores but was then forced to under an attorney general opinion. It told the media the scores were available to the public, but not the schools.

And he said he himself is a critic of the process, at least in the way some schools are using the tests. The tests were originally designed, and can still be used, to help teachers and students identify material that is not being taught effectively. "Now it's all about accountability and that purpose has gotten lost," he said.

He hopes by moving the test to the fall, teachers would have results back in time that they could not only be held accountable for what they had done, but could use the test results to correct what they had not.

    

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